Planlegging Problem gjenopptar Min polygame ekteskap
av Ann mai.04, 2009, under min historie i dag
Ja. Du hørte det riktig. Planlegging problem i min polygame ekteskap har gjensyn meg. Hvor i verden skjedde det?Jeg tenkte ikke på en million år ville Alex, Carolinah, og meg rett tilbake der vi var, krangler om tidsplanen, krangler om dagene. En tidsplan er en enkel ting å finne ut og sette sammen ... Høyre?Du skulle tro det.
Jeg skal prøve å gjøre dette så kort som mulig, siden vi har vært over tidsplanen problemer her ganske ofte før. Jeg er litt flau for å presentere det til deg igjen. Jeg vurderer å ikke gjøre det, men dere alle har vært med meg hele denne tiden, reiste med meg, så jeg føler at du bør bli med meg på dette også.
Den siste gang vi snakket om planen, Jeg informerte om at det hadde vært avsluttet for resten av året 2009. Til oppsummering, Alex trodde Carolinah skyldes mer ferie tid,men jeg trodde ikke hun var. Likevel, Hun fikk fire dager. Den planen har forandret seg litt siden sist jeg skrev. Alex vil være med meg i julen og News år selv om vi ikke feirer. Carolinah skal ikke mye omsorg, som hun har å jobbe helligdager. Hun har den type jobb. Så, planen er ferdig for resten av året.
Alex er planlagt å starte et opphold hjemme ferie med Carolinah morgen for elleve dager (sju dager pluss de fire makeup dager som jeg nevnte ovenfor). Before Alex left me on Thanksgiving Day to go be with Carolinah, Jeg plutselig fikk en åpenbaring om at de fire dagene som Alex hadde gitt Carolinah ikke skyldtes henne i det hele. En lyset kom på i hodet mitt og det hele ble levende klart for meg. Jeg tok den med til Alex oppmerksomhet og forklarte. Dette drev ham gal selvfølgelig. Han hater å håndtere planlegging spørsmål. Han gikk på og om hvordan planen var allerede forberedt for resten av året. Jeg rådet ham at jeg ikke ønsker ham til å endre planen eller ta dager fra Carolinah. Jeg rådet ham at jeg bare ønsket å bli kompensert for de dager, gitt fire dager også, whether this year or next.
Den samtalen fant sted torsdag (Thanksgiving Day). I går, Lørdag, Jeg fant bevis på at Carolinah ikke skyldes disse fire dager. Jeg fant den tidsplanen som Alex hadde forberedt med alle Carolinah's makeup dager og feriedager. Jeg mailet det til ham. Det var da kaoset startet. Alex og jeg mailet frem og tilbake det meste av dagen. Alex spør meg hvordan jeg beregnet; da hun fikk dagene, og hva slags dagene de var etc, etc, etc.… Han insisterte hun ikke få henne dager. Han fikk den gamle måten vi pleide å gjøre planlegging (til min Wali intervenerte) forveksles med hvordan vi gjør planleggingen siden juni 2009. Basert på den gamle måten å gjøre ting, som er den tiden aktuelle tidsrommet,alle sine dager var regnskapsført. Alex, på ett punkt, stopped responding to my emails and I had become worked up in a tizzy by then.
Jeg mailet Alex en rekke ganger i løpet av kvelden og tidlig på morgenen med bevis min som Carolinah skyldtes ingen dager. Jeg prøvde å gjøre det så klart og så enkelt som jeg kunne. Faktisk, Jeg har nettopp avsluttet emailing ham rett før jeg begynte å skrive dette innlegget, å se om han hadde kommet til en konklusjon. Han ville ikke email meg tilbake. Jeg ringte ham på hans mobiltelefon; imidlertid, han svarte ikke. Han er på grunn hjem snart, så jeg bør finne ut avslutning på historien.
Jeg er veldig forstyrret av det som har skjedd fordi jeg vet Carolinah var godt klar over at hun ikke var på grunn av de dager at hun fikk, men hun snakket ikke opp. Jeg er bekymret fordi Alex, hvem som bør være på toppen av planen, en enkel grunnleggende del av polygami, kan aldri få det riktig. Jeg er forstyrret, som jeg ikke vet hvor mye svindel er begått av Alex og Carolinah i det siste da de utarbeidet planen. Ja, Jeg vet det var delvis min feil for ikke å være en aktiv deltaker i å gjøre planen for omtrent to og et halvt år. Jeg kunne bare ikke håndtere ekteskapet etter en tidsplan på den tiden.
Hvordan Alex håndterer denne saken vil avgjøre hvordan ekteskapet vårt utbytte. Jeg har rådet ham til at i en av e-post. Hvis han ikke kan være rettferdig og bare med meg etter alle offer jeg har gjort i dette ekteskapet for ham å være sammen med Carolinah, så jeg trenger å spørre om jeg trenger å forbli i den. Hvis Alex ikke kan få en enkel tidsplan rett, Vi har sett på noen alvorlige problemer i forkant.
Jeg skal holde deg oppdatert!
Dette er et åpent hus. Ingen grunn til å banke. Bare kom igjen i.
11/29/09


November 29th, 2009 på 6:31 PM
I “feel you” girl. And I also feel FOR you. You need a lot of LOVE, WISDOM and GRACE from the SPIRIT of GOD to deal with this successfully – however you decide to handle it. I suggest that as long as you stay in the relationship – live in love toward them. Don’t be nit-picky about your schedule or anything else. But do require honesty from them or else.
If Alex doesn’t want to be honest with you or FAIR or JUST then He is violating His right to have a Polygamous marriage – according to the Koran right?
I suggest that you bring this to your “elders” attention and have them deal with it. Let Alex know that you are not playing. Don’t be his fool. You do not want to appear as the weak or “needy” one.
Be strong. Don’t be afraid of being alone. You can find a much better husband than Alex if need be. I believe you have a lot to offer which the right person would sincerely appreciate. Perhaps you have outgrown your relationship with Alex.
Just some food for thought.
November 29th, 2009 på 7:42 PM
Oooh, that is so very sweet and comforting. Thank you Curtis Farmer!
I have good news; at least I think it is. Alex and I came to a resolution. At first it entailed somewhat of a heated argument and then we calmed down and he conceded I was right about the schedule. Så, I’ve selected my days, which I’ll take in February. I truly felt this was the turning point…not so much about getting my way, but about fairness and justice.
By the way, I swung by your blog. It’s very, very nice. I think when Alex leaves tomorrow, I’ll get a chance to visit and spend some time with you there
Dette er et åpent hus. Ingen grunn til å banke. Bare kom igjen i.
November 30th, 2009 på 2:49 AM
Vel, what did I say about ‘flexibility’ ?
November 30th, 2009 på 5:42 AM
Jeg hører deg (LOL), but flexibility is out the door when it comes to me. There is no flexibility when there is no love in the heart of a wife for a husband’s other “kone.” I’m sure flexibility would be nice
November 30th, 2009 på 6:40 AM
Oh, I almost forgot; I was flexible. Alex was quite generous. He insisted that I take three additional days that I accused him and Carolinah of taking from me this past July. I declined and said I wouldn’t revisit the issue with those three days again. I wonder how many days were misplaced when I was in a semi-comatose state.
Allikevel, it’s all good. With my four days in February, I secured Valentine’s Day although I shouldn’t celebrate (I can’t help it. Love is in the air everywhere that day). With President’s Day attached, it bought me seven days. I may treat Alex to a cruise on those days, if I can find a convenient one, Insha Allah.
Dette er et åpent hus. Ingen grunn til å banke. Bare kom igjen i.
November 30th, 2009 på 9:56 PM
I think this man likes to see women fight over him.
Don’t give him the satisfaction. Be independent and strong.
December 1st, 2009 på 2:50 AM
Chatelaine, I think you have a point there. “Independent and strong” is good. I was wondering whether Alex was enjoying the dissention.
One of my sisters, just this evening, said to me, “He must have a big head (ego)” with Carolinah and me fighting over spending time with him.
Alex spent part of the day with me today. He left late this afternoon. I was very strong when he left, no mushy, gushy, Jeg elsker deg, crying, sad stuff. Thank God much for that. As Curtis Farmer stated, I shouldn’t be a “weak”, “needy”, fool”.
I feel at peace and content with his absence at the moment. I can only pray that I’ll steadily continue to grow and get better.
Takk, Chatelaine.
Dette er et åpent hus. Ingen grunn til å banke. Bare kom igjen i.
December 1st, 2009 på 2:55 AM
Haji Rafiq, I was expecting you to get hit with a lot of questions, since you live polygamy and could possibly shed some light on the subject from a male’s perspective. I can say you’ve enlightened me, regarding some things.
Dette er et åpent hus. Ingen grunn til å banke. Bare kom igjen i.
December 1st, 2009 på 11:16 AM
Hi Ana,
Could I ask you to share with us some time what the positives are in your relationship with Alex? These are the things I’ve heard so far: (using my own words)
1. It could be worse.
2. Even though there is a second wife, at least it makes me feel that I’m first.
3. Everthing is ordained to be the way it is. I’m free to leave, but if that happens, it will have been ordained.
Takk Ana, as always, J.
December 1st, 2009 på 7:48 PM
Yes Judith. I certainly could do that. I’m so used to venting about the negative, and not talking about the good things that happen in my marriage; I could see how it appears there is only bad in it. I surmise that is why I haven’t been writing much lately about my life, as there hasn’t been much drama to speak of. I’ve just been settling in. Men, it is part of my journey so I should write about it.
Så, I will move on. It may be awkward initially. I feel in talking about the good in my life, I’m gloating. I’ll try to get past that though and share.
Judith, thanks for helping me move my writing forward in a new direction.
Dette er et åpent hus. Ingen grunn til å banke. Bare kom igjen i.
December 1st, 2009 på 8:14 PM
As I stated before, Alex likes to see the two of you struggle over him. Stop struggling, and simply make yourself less available to him. Explore other interests outside of your home. Consider taking classes at a university, or perhaps take practical classes in the arts for your entertainment and self development. You will find this to be a pleasant diversion, and you may meet interesting people as well. Too much of your life and your time is focused on Alex, his needs, and your need to have him in your life. He hardly spends any time taking your needs into consideration, so why make his needs your priority? What exactly does Alex offer to you, other than the title “Mrs.” in front of your name?
December 1st, 2009 på 9:06 PM
Chatelaine, you offered good advice. There are good things happening in my life with Alex that I don’t speak of. I intend for that to change. I’m glad Judith brought it to my attention today. I’ve been intending to take the blog in a different direction to show the positive aspects of polygamy as I know of them, and see them in my life.
I am quite busy and not totally pre-occupied with Alex. I have begun preliminary work on my business, but need to spend more time with it and take it further. It is going to entail a tremendous amount of work, putting together the business plan and obtaining financing and all. It concerns me, as I’ve grown so attached to spending so much time with everyone here, writing and reading and I dislike the thought of not being able to communicate as often with everyone. I can’t even find enough time to visit all my friends’ blogs and I feel badly about it.
I’ve been trying to get the new marriage site up and running, samt. It’s technically challenging. I hope to have that in effect by the New Year. Så, I have been quite busy with things besides Alex. I guess there’s no way of anyone knowing that unless I speak up about it. Thank you much, Chatelaine for your earnest concern, and all your suggestions. It mean very much to me
Dette er et åpent hus. Ingen grunn til å banke. Bare kom igjen i.
December 2nd, 2009 på 11:54 PM
What are your expectations of a relationship with a man?
What was the nature of your relationship with your father ?
What was the nature of the relationship between
your mother and your father ?
December 3rd, 2009 på 1:25 AM
Chatelaine, those are very good questions. Why do you ask?
I’m going to contemplate my answers to those questions and contemplate how those relationships may have impacted my life and my expectations of a relationship.
Do you think there is a relation between the answers to those questions and the reason women end up accepting polygamous relationship?
Dette er et åpent hus. Ingen grunn til å banke. Bare kom igjen i.
December 3rd, 2009 på 1:33 PM
Sounds ok, but please ignore such advice as be less available to him. What do such people have in mind? I see that you came to a solution. With love, flexibility and good intentions you can always find a solution. Your flexibility will be a good investment as you will be appreciated and lobed more.
December 3rd, 2009 på 10:46 PM
Hjem,
My theory is that women who accept polygyny may be willing to accept a relationship with a man who is only partially available to them physically and emotionally. Perhaps a woman would accept this polygynous relationship model as being acceptable because her parents had a relationship where there was significant emotional or physical distance, or because the woman had an unavailable or distant father. That is my hypothesis.
December 4th, 2009 på 6:06 AM
Haji rafiq, it’s funny, Alex is with Carolinah on vacation this week and part of next. He emailed me on Wednesday and said he’d like to come over Thursday. I said OK. He’s done that in the past when he’s been with her and I used to try to analyze it all. Was he not having such a good time with her? Did he rather be with me than her? Denne gangen, I didn’t do that, as it didn’t matter and it felt good not caring.
The main reason I wouldn’t make myself less available to Alex is because I believe that was part of what got him and me into the situation that we currently are in. I wasn’t available for him before he married Carolinah. I was not, despite my reasons for not being.
I think being less available may work in a dating relationship, but not necessarily a marriage. Now I can certainly see the importance of a wife having “a life” and not being “needy”, otherwise her husband could be put off by her or he becomes her lord and that’s not good either. The way I see it; there needs to be a balance.
I’m happy he and I reach a solution.
Dette er et åpent hus. Ingen grunn til å banke. Bare kom igjen i.
December 4th, 2009 på 6:55 AM
Chatelaine,
I think there may be truth in your theory. I believe what happens in our lives, during our formative years gives shape to who we are. I had a “distant”, “unavailable” biological father. My mother was cold, aloof, and emotionally detached from my stepdad. She didn’t realize she loved him until after she divorced him. I was the same toward Alex and didn’t take notice of him until he “gift” Carolinah. It’s all so interesting.
Dette er et åpent hus. Ingen grunn til å banke. Bare kom igjen i.
December 4th, 2009 på 6:02 PM
I see you have great insight.
May it guide your decision making in your relationship.
January 20th, 2010 på 5:54 PM
Are you sure you are not married to my husband?? Seriously Ana, I feel for you. My family goes down this road off and on also, and when it’s on it can be miserable. Some people, in particular people who don’t adjust well to schedules or who refuse to accept them in their hearts, aren’t meant for polygamy. At least that is how I feel. A schedule kept is the only way, with some flexibility of course, to maintain tranquility and respect in my belief. Grr I hate the schedule.
January 20th, 2010 på 11:32 PM
You said a mouth full New#3. Refusing in our hearts to accept a schedule is a huge problem. It’s sooooo difficult. I still sit down and study the schedule often to make sure Carolinah doesn’t have any advantage over me. I hate the way it makes me feel, so petty and obsessive.
There was an incident recently. When Alex and I last went away on vacation in November, he left Carolinah early in the a.m., earlier than he normally would have left her if he had to go to work, as we had a plane to catch. Jeg trodde; I’m going to hear this again one day soon.
Sikker nok, I heard it. The past recent holidays, Carolinah had to work them. I guess she had off a Saturday after to make up for it. Alex spoke to me about leaving me early that Sat. He wanted to leave around 10:00 a.m instead of 4:00ish p.m. He cited he had some hours to make up with her from our vacation. I said no. Make them up the next time she has vacation. I know it was petty and mean, but I’m sorry. Why should I accomodate her? She won’t even acknowledge I exist.
New#3, I understand exactly what you speak of. No one knows it better than me. Haji Rafiq, wouldn’t like what we say. He’s an advocate for flexibility. You mentioned flexibility is good. I believe flexibility is good too. I’m just having a difficult time with flexibility.
Dette er et åpent hus. Ingen grunn til å banke. Bare kom igjen i.
January 21st, 2010 på 9:29 AM
‘flexibility’. One of the ways mean people take advantage of kind people. No thanks. I prefer the sound of ‘backbone.’
January 21st, 2010 på 1:12 PM
Jeg hører deg! Give a person an inch and they take a mile. By saying no to that Saturday request, it prevents me from having to deal with anymore of them. And you know they would have been coming. I have no reason to have any consideration for Carolinah.
Dette er et åpent hus. Ingen grunn til å banke. Bare kom igjen i.