Problem planowania ponownych My poligamiczne małżeństwa
przez Ann maja.04, 2009, podczas dzisiaj moja historia
Tak. Słyszeliście, to prawo. Problemu szeregowania w moim małżeństwa poligamiczne Rewizja mnie. Jak na świecie to się stało?I nie myśl w milionów lat by Alex, Carolinah, i ja zaraz wracam, gdzie byliśmy, kłócą się o plan, kłócą się o dzień. Plan jest prostą rzeczą, aby dowiedzieć się i ułożyła ... Prawo?Wydawałoby się więc.
Postaram się zrobić to możliwie jak najkrótsze, ponieważ mamy już ponad problemów szeregowania zadań o dość często przed. Jestem trochę zakłopotany, aby przedstawić je jeszcze raz. I rozważał tego nie robić, ale wszystkie są ze mną cały czas, podróżując ze mną, więc uważam, że powinniśmy być ze mną na tym zbyt.
Ostatni raz rozmawialiśmy na temat harmonogramu, I poinformował, że została ona sfinalizowana do końca roku 2009. Przypomnę, Alex myśli Carolinah była spowodowana więcej czasu na urlop,ale nie sądzę była. Niemniej jednak, dostała cztery dni. Rozkład zmienił się nieco od mojej ostatniej napisał. Alex będzie ze mną w czasie świąt Bożego Narodzenia i News lat, chociaż nie świętujemy. Carolinah nie tyle opieki, jak ona ma urlop do pracy. Ona ma ten rodzaj pracy. Tak więc, harmonogram jest kompletny do końca roku.
Alex ma rozpocząć się zatrzymać na wakacje do domu z Carolinah jutro Przez jedenaście dni (siedem dni plus cztery dni makijażu, o których wspomniałem powyżej). Before Alex left me on Thanksgiving Day to go be with Carolinah, I nagle otrzymał objawienie, że cztery dni, że Alex dał Carolinah nie były spowodowane jej w ogóle. Światło przyszło na w mojej głowie i to wszystko stało się dla mnie jasne, żywe. I przywiózł go na baczność i wyjaśnił Alex. To doprowadziło go crazy oczywiście. Nienawidzi dotyczących zagadnień planowania. Wyszedł i na temat, jak program był już przygotowany do końca roku. Poradziłem mu, że nie pragnął go do zmiany harmonogramu lub podjęcia dni od Carolinah. Poradziłem mu, że chciał tylko odszkodowania za dzień, umieszczone cztery dni, a także, whether this year or next.
Ta rozmowa miała miejsce czwartek (Dzień Dziękczynienia). Wczoraj, Sobota, Znalazłem dowód, że Carolinah nie było spowodowane te cztery dni. Uważam, że harmonogram, że Alex miał przygotowane z dni wszystkie Carolinah makijaż i dni urlopu. Wysłałem e-mail do niego. To wtedy zaczął chaos. Alex i wysłane tam iz powrotem przez większość dnia. Alex pyta mnie, jak oblicza; , kiedy jeszcze dni, i jakie były etc dni, etc, itp.… Twierdził, że nie dostał jej dni. On był już stary sposób zrobiliśmy harmonogram (do mojej interwencji wali) mylone z robimy harmonogram od czerwca 2009. W oparciu o stary sposób załatwiania spraw, który to czas, o którym mowa,wszystkie jej dni były zaksięgowane. Alex, w jednym punkcie, stopped responding to my emails and I had become worked up in a tizzy by then.
Wysłałem e-mail Alex kilka razy wieczorem i we wczesnych godzinach porannych z moim dowodem, że nie było spowodowane Carolinah dni. Starałem się zrobić to tak jasne i proste jak mogłem. W rzeczywistości, Właśnie skończyłem wysyłając go tuż przed zacząłem pisać ten post, aby sprawdzić, czy doszedł do wniosku,. Nie mnie e-mail. Zadzwoniłem do niego na komórkę; jednak, nie odpowiedział. On tylko ze względu domu, więc należy się dowiedzieć, zakończenie do historii.
Jestem bardzo zaniepokojony, co miało miejsce, bo wiem, Carolinah doskonale zdawał sobie sprawę, że nie była z powodu tych dni, które dostała, ale się nie odezwałem,. Jestem zaniepokojony, ponieważ Alex, kto powinien być na szczycie harmonogram, prosta podstawowa część poligamii, może nigdy nie dowiedzieć się prawdy. Jestem zaniepokojony, jak nie wiesz jak bardzo oszustwo zostało popełnione przez Alex i Carolinah w przeszłości, kiedy przygotowywali harmonogram. Tak, Wiem, że to częściowo moja wina, nie jest aktywnym uczestnikiem w tworzeniu harmonogramu dla około dwóch i pół roku. Ja po prostu nie mógł znieść małżeństwa zgodnie z harmonogramem w tym czasie.
Jak Alex zajmuje się w tej kwestii ustalić, jak nasze wpływy małżeństwa. Mam powiadomiła go, że w jednym z e-maili. Jeżeli nie może on być sprawiedliwy i tylko ze mną po wszystkie ofiary, które zrobiłam w tym małżeństwo, aby zostać z Carolinah, to muszę się zastanowić, czy muszę pozostać w nim. Jeśli Alex nie może uzyskać prawo prosty plan, my patrząc na niektóre poważne problemy przed.
I'll keep you posted!
Jest to dom otwarty. Nie trzeba wbić. Wystarczy przyjść w dniu.
11/29/09


November 29th, 2009 on 6:31 PM
W “feel you” girl. And I also feel FOR you. You need a lot of LOVE, WISDOM and GRACE from the SPIRIT of GOD to deal with this successfully – however you decide to handle it. I suggest that as long as you stay in the relationship – live in love toward them. Don’t be nit-picky about your schedule or anything else. But do require honesty from them or else.
If Alex doesn’t want to be honest with you or FAIR or JUST then He is violating His right to have a Polygamous marriage – according to the Koran right?
I suggest that you bring this to your “elders” attention and have them deal with it. Let Alex know that you are not playing. Don’t be his fool. You do not want to appear as the weak or “needy” one.
Be strong. Don’t be afraid of being alone. You can find a much better husband than Alex if need be. I believe you have a lot to offer which the right person would sincerely appreciate. Perhaps you have outgrown your relationship with Alex.
Just some food for thought.
November 29th, 2009 on 7:42 PM
Oooh, that is so very sweet and comforting. Thank you Curtis Farmer!
I have good news; at least I think it is. Alex and I came to a resolution. At first it entailed somewhat of a heated argument and then we calmed down and he conceded I was right about the schedule. Tak więc, I’ve selected my days, which I’ll take in February. I truly felt this was the turning point…not so much about getting my way, but about fairness and justice.
Przy okazji, I swung by your blog. It’s very, very nice. I think when Alex leaves tomorrow, I’ll get a chance to visit and spend some time with you there
Jest to dom otwarty. Nie trzeba wbić. Wystarczy przyjść w dniu.
November 30th, 2009 on 2:49 AM
Dobrze, what did I say about ‘flexibility’ ?
November 30th, 2009 on 5:42 AM
Słyszałem, że (LOL), but flexibility is out the door when it comes to me. There is no flexibility when there is no love in the heart of a wife for a husband’s other “żona.” I’m sure flexibility would be nice
November 30th, 2009 on 6:40 AM
Oh, I almost forgot; I was flexible. Alex was quite generous. He insisted that I take three additional days that I accused him and Carolinah of taking from me this past July. I declined and said I wouldn’t revisit the issue with those three days again. I wonder how many days were misplaced when I was in a semi-comatose state.
Tak czy owak, it’s all good. With my four days in February, I secured Valentine’s Day although I shouldn’t celebrate (I can’t help it. Love is in the air everywhere that day). With President’s Day attached, it bought me seven days. I may treat Alex to a cruise on those days, if I can find a convenient one, Insha Boga.
Jest to dom otwarty. Nie trzeba wbić. Wystarczy przyjść w dniu.
November 30th, 2009 on 9:56 PM
I think this man likes to see women fight over him.
Don’t give him the satisfaction. Be independent and strong.
December 1st, 2009 on 2:50 AM
Chatelaine, I think you have a point there. “Independent and strong” is good. I was wondering whether Alex was enjoying the dissention.
One of my sisters, just this evening, said to me, “He must have a big head (ego)” with Carolinah and me fighting over spending time with him.
Alex spent part of the day with me today. He left late this afternoon. I was very strong when he left, no mushy, gushy, "Kocham Cię", crying, sad stuff. Thank God much for that. As Curtis Farmer stated, I shouldn’t be a “słaby”, “needy”, fool”.
I feel at peace and content with his absence at the moment. I can only pray that I’ll steadily continue to grow and get better.
Dziękuję, Chatelaine.
Jest to dom otwarty. Nie trzeba wbić. Wystarczy przyjść w dniu.
December 1st, 2009 on 2:55 AM
Haji Rafika, I was expecting you to get hit with a lot of questions, since you live polygamy and could possibly shed some light on the subject from a male’s perspective. I can say you’ve enlightened me, regarding some things.
Jest to dom otwarty. Nie trzeba wbić. Wystarczy przyjść w dniu.
December 1st, 2009 on 11:16 AM
Hi Ana,
Could I ask you to share with us some time what the positives are in your relationship with Alex? These are the things I’ve heard so far: (using my own words)
1. It could be worse.
2. Even though there is a second wife, at least it makes me feel that I’m first.
3. Everthing is ordained to be the way it is. I’m free to leave, but if that happens, it will have been ordained.
Dzięki Ana, as always, J.
December 1st, 2009 on 7:48 PM
Yes Judith. I certainly could do that. I’m so used to venting about the negative, and not talking about the good things that happen in my marriage; I could see how it appears there is only bad in it. I surmise that is why I haven’t been writing much lately about my life, as there hasn’t been much drama to speak of. I’ve just been settling in. Ale, it is part of my journey so I should write about it.
Tak więc, I will move on. It may be awkward initially. I feel in talking about the good in my life, I’m gloating. I’ll try to get past that though and share.
Judith, thanks for helping me move my writing forward in a new direction.
Jest to dom otwarty. Nie trzeba wbić. Wystarczy przyjść w dniu.
December 1st, 2009 on 8:14 PM
As I stated before, Alex likes to see the two of you struggle over him. Stop struggling, and simply make yourself less available to him. Explore other interests outside of your home. Consider taking classes at a university, or perhaps take practical classes in the arts for your entertainment and self development. You will find this to be a pleasant diversion, and you may meet interesting people as well. Too much of your life and your time is focused on Alex, his needs, and your need to have him in your life. He hardly spends any time taking your needs into consideration, so why make his needs your priority? What exactly does Alex offer to you, other than the title “Mrs.” in front of your name?
December 1st, 2009 on 9:06 PM
Chatelaine, you offered good advice. There are good things happening in my life with Alex that I don’t speak of. I intend for that to change. I’m glad Judith brought it to my attention today. I’ve been intending to take the blog in a different direction to show the positive aspects of polygamy as I know of them, and see them in my life.
I am quite busy and not totally pre-occupied with Alex. I have begun preliminary work on my business, but need to spend more time with it and take it further. It is going to entail a tremendous amount of work, putting together the business plan and obtaining financing and all. It concerns me, as I’ve grown so attached to spending so much time with everyone here, writing and reading and I dislike the thought of not being able to communicate as often with everyone. I can’t even find enough time to visit all my friends’ blogs and I feel badly about it.
I’ve been trying to get the new marriage site up and running, oraz. It’s technically challenging. I hope to have that in effect by the New Year. Tak więc, I have been quite busy with things besides Alex. I guess there’s no way of anyone knowing that unless I speak up about it. Thank you much, Chatelaine for your earnest concern, and all your suggestions. It mean very much to me
Jest to dom otwarty. Nie trzeba wbić. Wystarczy przyjść w dniu.
December 2nd, 2009 on 11:54 PM
What are your expectations of a relationship with a man?
What was the nature of your relationship with your father ?
What was the nature of the relationship between
your mother and your father ?
December 3rd, 2009 on 1:25 AM
Chatelaine, those are very good questions. Why do you ask?
I’m going to contemplate my answers to those questions and contemplate how those relationships may have impacted my life and my expectations of a relationship.
Do you think there is a relation between the answers to those questions and the reason women end up accepting polygamous relationship?
Jest to dom otwarty. Nie trzeba wbić. Wystarczy przyjść w dniu.
December 3rd, 2009 on 1:33 PM
Sounds ok, but please ignore such advice as be less available to him. What do such people have in mind? I see that you came to a solution. With love, flexibility and good intentions you can always find a solution. Your flexibility will be a good investment as you will be appreciated and lobed more.
December 3rd, 2009 on 10:46 PM
Ana,
My theory is that women who accept polygyny may be willing to accept a relationship with a man who is only partially available to them physically and emotionally. Perhaps a woman would accept this polygynous relationship model as being acceptable because her parents had a relationship where there was significant emotional or physical distance, or because the woman had an unavailable or distant father. That is my hypothesis.
December 4th, 2009 on 6:06 AM
Haji rafiq, it’s funny, Alex is with Carolinah on vacation this week and part of next. He emailed me on Wednesday and said he’d like to come over Thursday. I said OK. He’s done that in the past when he’s been with her and I used to try to analyze it all. Was he not having such a good time with her? Did he rather be with me than her? Tym razem, I didn’t do that, as it didn’t matter and it felt good not caring.
The main reason I wouldn’t make myself less available to Alex is because I believe that was part of what got him and me into the situation that we currently are in. I wasn’t available for him before he married Carolinah. I was not, despite my reasons for not being.
I think being less available may work in a dating relationship, but not necessarily a marriage. Now I can certainly see the importance of a wife having “a life” and not being “needy”, otherwise her husband could be put off by her or he becomes her lord and that’s not good either. The way I see it; there needs to be a balance.
I’m happy he and I reach a solution.
Jest to dom otwarty. Nie trzeba wbić. Wystarczy przyjść w dniu.
December 4th, 2009 on 6:55 AM
Chatelaine,
I think there may be truth in your theory. I believe what happens in our lives, during our formative years gives shape to who we are. I had a “distant”, “unavailable” biological father. My mother was cold, aloof, and emotionally detached from my stepdad. She didn’t realize she loved him until after she divorced him. I was the same toward Alex and didn’t take notice of him until he “żonaty” Carolinah. It’s all so interesting.
Jest to dom otwarty. Nie trzeba wbić. Wystarczy przyjść w dniu.
December 4th, 2009 on 6:02 PM
I see you have great insight.
May it guide your decision making in your relationship.
January 20th, 2010 on 5:54 PM
Are you sure you are not married to my husband?? Seriously Ana, I feel for you. My family goes down this road off and on also, and when it’s on it can be miserable. Some people, in particular people who don’t adjust well to schedules or who refuse to accept them in their hearts, aren’t meant for polygamy. At least that is how I feel. A schedule kept is the only way, with some flexibility of course, to maintain tranquility and respect in my belief. Grr I hate the schedule.
January 20th, 2010 on 11:32 PM
You said a mouth full New#3. Refusing in our hearts to accept a schedule is a huge problem. It’s sooooo difficult. I still sit down and study the schedule often to make sure Carolinah doesn’t have any advantage over me. I hate the way it makes me feel, so petty and obsessive.
There was an incident recently. When Alex and I last went away on vacation in November, he left Carolinah early in the a.m., earlier than he normally would have left her if he had to go to work, as we had a plane to catch. Myślałem, że; I’m going to hear this again one day soon.
Rzeczywiście, I heard it. The past recent holidays, Carolinah had to work them. I guess she had off a Saturday after to make up for it. Alex spoke to me about leaving me early that Sat. He wanted to leave around 10:00 a.m instead of 4:00ish p.m. He cited he had some hours to make up with her from our vacation. Nie miałem. Make them up the next time she has vacation. I know it was petty and mean, but I’m sorry. Why should I accomodate her? She won’t even acknowledge I exist.
New#3, I understand exactly what you speak of. No one knows it better than me. Haji Rafika, wouldn’t like what we say. He’s an advocate for flexibility. You mentioned flexibility is good. I believe flexibility is good too. I’m just having a difficult time with flexibility.
Jest to dom otwarty. Nie trzeba wbić. Wystarczy przyjść w dniu.
January 21st, 2010 on 9:29 AM
‘flexibility’. One of the ways mean people take advantage of kind people. No thanks. I prefer the sound of ‘backbone.’
January 21st, 2010 on 1:12 PM
Słyszałem, że! Give a person an inch and they take a mile. By saying no to that Saturday request, it prevents me from having to deal with anymore of them. And you know they would have been coming. I have no reason to have any consideration for Carolinah.
Jest to dom otwarty. Nie trzeba wbić. Wystarczy przyjść w dniu.